From fracking to data centers: Hearing from people on both sides of the opposition

In a conversation with NPR's Ayesha Rascoe, environmentalist Bill McKibben and public relations specialist Frank Maisano discuss the heated debates around industrial projects like fracking and data centers. McKibben highlights environmental concerns and the impact on local communities, while Maisano represents the economic benefits and job creation potential of these projects. This dialogue underscores the broader tension between economic growth and environmental sustainability, revealing how deeply personal and regional the stakes are for those directly affected.